>>804604 ur soul is cute

ah hold on wrong message

>>804603 ➡ ur soul is cute

here we go

>>804604
women't

>>804607
<3 green heart.... wait NO IT WON'T BE GREEN AAAA

red is p good still

its one of the RBGs

*RGBs

is RBG like the waluigi of brian david gilbert

no RGB is red, green, blue also knows as the primary additive colors

doesn't answer my question about RBG tho

ohh

i have no idea i only watched the insurance vid from him

I retain my theory

oh was the winter king the "i ranked every boss in dark souls as job work kind of boss" RBG

wait no i got the acronym messed up. whatever.

>>804620
wait WHAT

how did i not know that

omg

I love Fionna & Cake so much how did I miss that >_>

yeah it's so good

yeah right

i was just

thinking about adventure time stuff right before going on here actually

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oh it is brian david glibert huh

>>804631
#halt

bishy king

whats bishy'

bishy is slang for bishounen

which is weeb for prettyboy

oh yeah like kurama from yyh

i guess there's also biseinen which is pretty man

reminds me i should rewatch ouran high

ouran *host club i mean

i should watch afaik the mc is nb coded

yeah the mc presents as both masc and fem its very based

it's classic for a reason

more than coded imo, i think there's literally a line where they say "I don't really care about gender either way"

that doesn't necessarily make you an nb tho

to the extent that this character takes it? functionally yes

i don't think nb was a culturally extant word at the time it was out

>>804647
>functionally
???

>>804649 I mean if they were a real person I wouldn't make this ascription - but like, they're a character who is heavily nb-coded, says things which makes sense as an nb mindset, and was written in a time/place which wouldn't really use the term nb

watch it and see

I'm happy to say that for all intents and purposes, they're beyond coded

like I think it'd take more conscious effort to read them as *not* being nb, than to read them as being so

idk what's "beyond coded" supposed to mean, like the character heavily reads as nb i assume, but like, in my mind the only way it could go beyond coding would be if ay any point they were explicitly described as being neither male or female

>>804655
I think that reading them as nb is a natural conclusion of their characterization - imo "nb-coded" would mean "reads as kinda nb but is narratively ambiguous"

>>804656
Yes I know about the term X-gender, but it's not very widespread in manga writing in the 00s, nor in fujo culture of the time

it existed, but it didn't have the cultural sway that it does now

I can't think of a case where the term X-gender shows up in any manga except for hentai personally lol

>>804658
>reads as kinda nb but is narratively ambiguous
how are they not narratively ambigous tho

>>804661
Like, their lack of identifying with either binary gender, is core to the plot of the series. To remove it from the plot would undo the story

>>804662
>Like, their lack of identifying with either binary gender
that could be gender apathy tho

that, sounds like nb to me?

if it's taken to the extent of you changing the way you live your life and present yourself and you make an avid point about it

hm i should watch it

probably yeah! it's a classic

im not sure about taking any approach to derriving someones gender other than them explicitly IDing as such

she's, a fictional character written in the 00s. she's not going to self-ID

>>804670
i mean, lots of older media had drag queen characters that were heavily coded is trans, bc many people that would id as trans now would id as drag queens back then.
>>804672
afaik that just happened irl, transition as a concept wasn't so prevelant so some people would have just used the identity of drag queen to express transness

Because that's an easy narrative trope that audiences already understood

also it doesn't like, disintenagle the narrative to do so - it's usually a side point

having the protag of this series self-ID would be like... the most unsubtle, "Tell don't show" thing that the writer could do

>>804674
the issue is that nb is an identity tho? there are behaviours that are strongly corelated to it sure, but essentially the defining factor of being nb would be to identify as such

>>804674
Okay yes, but by this standard, ficitional characters don't have gender until the writer explicitly declares their gender. That seems unuseful.
I only gender characters insofar as it applies any use, since I like, believe in gender deconstructivism fundamentally.

>>804675
you could make the assertion that the character would ID as enby given different circumstances i just don't know if it makes sense to assert they are to any extend other than coding

>>804677
I think they would self-ID as enby, if they were a real person, yes. That's obviously me reading into the text (but again, I think any other read would take a whole lot of effort)

woah this is cool

>>804676
>Okay yes, but by this standard, ficitional characters don't have gender until the writer explicitly declares their gender.
well yeah many character would simply be coded as male and female and that works well enough for its purposes

>>804681
yeah most certainly, i feel like you interpet coding to be something insignificant

>>804680
Okay gotcha, I think we're using the term "coded" differently here, and your use is probably more technically accurate.

I'm calling protag here "More than coded as nb" in the same sense that I'd say that Princess Peach is "More than coded as female"

>>804680
My use of "coding" doesn't have anything to do with significance - it's about how the character is communicated.

i mean coding is implication, unless something is explicitly said it can only be implied

>>804683
This is the more technically accurate usage of "coding", you're right, and yes, by this standard, protag is only coded as nb

I was trying to point at something more culturally prevelant and impressionistic, I should've avoided that word ig

prolly

I was more trying to point at "protag's enby-ness is a fundamental enough part of her character, that it seems like you would almost-inevitably figure it out without needing to resort to induction"

as opposed to "they're coded as enby by a few cultural allusions and design traits"

yeah ic where youre getting from

>>804679
uhm thanks ^-^

hope you like the gender theory breakdown of Ouran

I will proceed to make this into a mediocre & rambling 3 hour video essay

with philosophy-tube-esque outfit changes and lofi background music

on the tangent of nb characters now i remember "knights of sidonia" where i guess there's like. a third "gender" of people who are genetically engineered to be androgynous, except if they fall in love with someone in which case they transform into the opposite sex of who they're in love with

i do wonder what would happen if two people like that fell in love with one another

>>804694
I had an idea like this a while back - and thought about what'd happen if they filmed porn of themself, and then livestreamed themself watching the porn in an OBS window so that it does the infinite reflection thing

then they'd just infinitely flicker between genders

*sexes

sex

yeah yeah i figured

gender onion

gender static

>>804695
you could also go further, what happens if single one of thos androgynous folk is in a poly relationship with a woman and a man

god i wanna be one of them

i was talking about the live typing thing btw, not whatever you're talking about

>>804705
i mean, yeah conceptually that's pretty cute

dunno if im in2 relationship at all

androgynous forever sounds like a good deal to me ngl

>>804706
welcome new anon

>>804710
thank you anon

>>804711
#sharkspin

>>804709
like for yourself, or do you mean the third gender participant of that theoretical poly relationship

>>804713
I was responding to you saying you dunno if you're in2 relationship at all

the conclusion of that would be "always staying in the androgynous state"

just saying that sounds good to me

wawa

gm worms

i have coffee and hash browns in the oven

#morninglyfe..

hiiiiiii

>>804714
oh i said that cuz im aroace lul

yes, makes sense

huh

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what's that

>>804725

>>804725

>>804726
dream i had

including but not limited to

large structural messy unorganized multigenerational perspective explorers young demonic presences L shape outcrop going deeper

huh

>>804604
i shoulda used a different image but i was really rushing to make a thread

>>804733
woah

im rebunking women

>>804736
how will you do this

>>804737
#f8ball (doomed)

uh oh

#ai debunk etymology

The word "debunk" comes from the combination of the prefix "de-" meaning to remove or undo, and the word "bunk" which is slang for nonsense or false information. It was first used in 1923 by American novelist William Woodward to describe his efforts to expose fraudulent spiritual mediums. Over time, it has come to mean exposing any kind of falsehoods or myths. debunk etymology

i would like to drink coffee

hmmm

so i will say that rebunking a woman means 2uhh turn her in2 nonsense or smth like that

like reduce her 2speaking nonsense

my boobs are smaller in the morning

i should eat more to make them bigger

in the mornings theres a bit of space at the top

>>804747
i dont think it works like that

oh it might just be because im bent over then idk

does it???

im pretty sure my boobs r like th same size all th time unless im in a position that shifts th fat around like lying down or bending ovr

i know if i lie on my back my boobs are basically gone say byebye

its also really annoying finding bras because i have coneboobs

>>804753
mine are too (-AA)

i need bras

i have th opposite of coneboobs

>>804757
are you going to go up to boymoders and take off their bras and then go to your house with the

>>804758
im jealous

im hoping mine fill out with more time on HRT

theyre a nice size im 32C

>>804761
they will o7

prog helps

round them out

i took prog for a while

it didnt lol

it depends on when u take it and ur method of taking it

+ theres like no vegan prog besides gel so i dont really like taking it

oh ur vegan

i used to boof it

ah

well it also depends on ur tanner stage

one nice thing about prog tho was it helped me get sleepy

but rly th effects r quite unresearched it sux trans healthcare is ballz

>>804773
im p sure im tanner 4? like they just need to fill out. im 2 years hrt

my boobs are flat

>>804775
yeah trans medicine in general is just word of mouth because nobody wants to research icky transes

>>804777
not rly

>>804777
no they aren't

>>804779
yes

#ai tanner stages go from 1 to 5

Tanner stages are a scale used to measure the physical development of adolescents during puberty. They go from stage 1, which is pre-pubertal or childhood, to stage 5, which is full sexual maturity.

Stage 1: Pre-puberty - No signs of pubic hair growth or breast development in girls.

Stage 2: Early Puberty - Sparse and fine pubic hair begins to grow along with slight enlargement of breasts in girls.

Stage 3: Mid-Puberty - Darker and coarser pubic hair starts growing while breasts continue to develop further in girls. Boys may experience testicular growth and penis enlargement at this stage.

Stage4 : Late Puberty- Further increase in breast size for girls and continued genital growth for boys. Girls may also start their first menstrual cycle at this stage.

Stage5 : Full Sexual Maturity- Fully developed adult characteristics including fully grown genitals, matured body shape (curves for females) ,and facial/body hair distribution patterns similar to adults. tanner stages go from 1 to

>>804780
yes they are >:(

remind me

how do i picblur im gonna post boob diagram

u just uhh yea like that

>>804785
#blur

>>804787
yeah

mine look like that, tanner 4

>>804787
#blur

with the little bump on the nipple

is now a good time to maybe try prog again?

theyve been like this for a while, at least like, 6 months or so

with a bit of growth but not much

if u weren't tanner 4 last time u tried then ye u should try again

i think i was maybe? not sure

>>804783
you're doing a great deservice to the flat chest community by calling your boobs flat

i still have some lying around

how long did u take it before?

prog also makes me feel bad idk

>>804801
a month or so?

>>804787
idk if im tanner iv or v but i shouldnt b v ive only bn on hrt 4 like 3.5yrs

>>804803
u need to be on it longer

ah ok

i will look into more prog maybe

boof it right? up the ass?

>>804809
yeah

why do

guh

whybdo i have lines on my boobs rn

they look like if i had verticle sh scars but im pretty sure i just slept on something that temporarily imprinted onto them

opworm what did u do

>>804804
cuz like my areolae and nips r completely flush w th skin until they get hard then th whole areolae and th nipples harden and raise idk how normal it is

>>804815
3.5 years sounds like long enough to be v maybe?

oh but yeah mine get more bumped when theyre hard too

i only have a little bump when theyre flaccid

but when theyre hard its very pronounced

idk where i am
im not good at judging

#ai is it normal for the areola to become erect alongside the nipple?

Yes, it is normal for the areola to become erect alongside the nipple. This can happen due to changes in temperature or arousal and is a natural response of the body. is it normal for the areola to become erect alongside the nipple?

actually wait no

now i always have the bump

ok i probably wasnt tanner iv before but am now then?

brb gonna shove some prog up my ass ig

i still have a box

100mg or 200mg?

should i just start with 100mg i guess see how it feels, i remember not liking how prog made me feel

100mg is a very normal dose yeah

okay ty, i have a hole in my trans healthcare knowledge around prog kinda

im like, the tranny witch doctor for my friends for E/AAs but idk much about prog

i might b tanner v

pog?

maddy if you had to take a guess where would you put me on tannwr

my boobs seem p constant with v

>>804833
uhhhh

lemme take a look at them again

science

>>804820
i hope HRT won't be giving me nip erections

>>804838
it didnt give me nip erections :(

>>804838
evry1s nipples bcome erevt it comes w being a human being

>>804840
how to become more human

>>804840
i wouldn't say i do? maybe something to do with being ace but my nips have 0 sensetation and just feel like the rest of my skin

>>804842
it can be a temperature thing and not an arousal thing..

>>804841
install gentoo

>>804844
no thank you operator worm

took some prog

>>804843
welp, never happened to me, never had my nips react to anything

>>804843
are you saying that if i put an ice cube on my nip it will become erect

my nipples are extremely extremely sensitive

mayb i have nipple disability idk

>>804843
this

>>804848
uhh maybe yeah

my nips get hard in th cold they always have evn b4 hrt

>>804852
brb

>>804850
that eould actually be good, ideally id prefer to not have nips at all

if its rly cold they contract a lot and hurt bad

gonna make a coffee and come downstairs with both coffee and ice cube

>>804856
id say they did that b4 hrt as well but idr

>>804604
#take

doesnt work...

hold on did opworm make it possible to #give the op post?

>>804862
#take

kay what nip will the icecube go on

>>804864
#take
>>804866
#give

>>804858
yea they def did

>>804866
left!

>>804869
okay

>>804865
hmm nope. oh ig the image was swapped by a mod cuz mayb the joke was a lil offensive

raw on skin?

>>804871
owie owie owie owie that sounds BADDDDD

ESSS JEY DUBBLYOU Mods gone MAD

>>804874
yea it happened 2me last wintr a few times

id say my nipples r fairly sensitive 2

but like normal sensitive not like supr early hrt die or melt if touched sensitive

>>804879
t-that's a thing that happens?? well presumably SERMs wouldn't do that

>>804880
with breast development yes

>>804880
yeah big time

my boobs rly hurt when they started growing in

ICE CUBE ON NIP

>>804883
so it's a response to growth and not like the nerves in your nipples triggering 3x stronger

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>804885
yeah growth is what does it, they will get sore again if you go through another growth phase later too

>>804879
i never got this :(

>>804883
mostly by touch rathr than just on their own 4me tho

FUCK THIS IS COLD

so hopefully SERMs won't do that to me

>>804890
no shit recima hahaha

>>804892
AAAAAAAAAAA

why is recima torturing herself again

my boobs were never really sore

like ever

theyre sensitive sometimes but not sore

it's also leaking onto my other boob which is cold

>>804895
trying to get the nips i deserve

>>804898
same mine dont get sore anymore

idk if they evr frequently got sore at random

sore as in not sensetive?

growing pains

mine did when i was just starting but it's been a long time

ive had sm boob growing pains i think

did my nips nerves all just freeze

my boobs feel normal these days

theyre just part of my body

1 of th top 5 erogenous zones

>>804911
yea :3

>>804911
#give

MY NIP STILL ISNT HARD

amazing

also i fucking love placebo

ig you have lewo nips then idk

>>804917
i took prog 10 mins ago and now my boobs hurt i love placebo i love feeling things that arent real

>>804915
???

>>804919
that's called nacebo

nocebo is negative i like my boobs hurting :3

>>804920
THE ICE CUBE IS ON MY NIP AND NEARLY MELTED AND MY NIPPLE STILL ISNT HARD

>>804923
how can u tell if theyre hard or not

they r fairly small

>>804925
BY TOUCHING IT

i dont understand how they would not b hard at all

when my nipples get erect they dont really get hard

maybe there's some "0 nip sensetivity" gen and i and recima happen to have it idk

>>804929
mine get firm alongside th areola

>>804927
they should b more prominent than if they werent icy

they definitely shouldnt b fully soft

>>804932
the non ice cubed nip is more fucking peoominent rn (or at least the earrola is)

>>804930
I can't find any data online

doomed to boynips :(

i don't think that's a boynip thing

>>804936
idk sm girls just dont have sensitive nipples

>>804938
yeah

>>804938
boynips :(

why did god have to give his most boy nipped boymoder a boob fetish

>>804940
ur nips look like girlnips

they r girlnips

>>804942
no they dont

they look like boynips

i didn't actually memorize how your nips look so idk, i wouldn't assume they look like that

boynip recima :(

aaaghh maddy tell her something affirming fast

lewô why r u this

idk what2say

im sry ur nips rnt sensitive recima

>>804952
do u know how to change that

no

i think there r ways 2induce sensitivity but mine just r so i wouldnt kno

>>804950
this what

https://www.healthline.com/health/womens-health/nipple-orgasm#technique

this article is bullshit the government is bullshit this is bullshit life is bullshit :(

i will say personally my nips don't really feel much unless it's someone else touching them

yea i think i might b a bit of a rarity

okay i just read something and it brings up the idea that i might need to like
stretch my nips

so like
the skin is less tight and can fill in with more nip

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU STRETCH THE SKIN ON A NIPPLE I DONT HAVE A VACUUM HELP

i shouldv bn asleep an hr ago

i should b way more tired 4 th time i woke up and th day ive had

gn all #debrainworm (USER WAS DEBRAINWORMED FOR THIS POST) :D

sweet dreams!!!!

>804963

Shit.

Forgot it does that. Anyway, >804963, with your.. hands?

>>804970
double >>11111 ➡

Oh. Right. Sorry.

>>804974 You pinch it. And then.. pull? So it stretches?

>>804970
how do you stretch the nip tho i can pinch it but idk bow to stretch

>>804973
uhhhh
lemme try

>>804977 Just seemed logical to me. Dunno. Is it working?

anon you may be onto something

>>804976
well, both seem to be in a similar state rn
uhhh

need to experiment more though overall

>>804978 You can do it!

^_^

pulled out a bit on aerols
both seem to be in similar state altho left nips monty glands are a bit more visible but i think that's normal for me

both are in soft anti wrinkle mode (no aerola wrinkles and high quality texture)

pinch and pull beginning now (on both)

hmmm

both are a lil wrinkled now

pulling on nips hurts a bit; idk what to do abt that

>>804986 Maybe try pinching differently?

(As in, I don't know Maybe grab a bit more skin?)

you could try and get one of thos weird nipple suction cup things

>>804987
idk too many ways to pinch

>>804989
that would be unfeasable because i would have no good reason to explain to my parents what it is

(So you aren't only pulling a part of it, because that hurts since you focus too much on it.)

>>804988
like, grab some aerol in the oinch?

>>804993 Yeah! Maybe try that.

>>804991
i mean they're not very big so it wouldn't be impossible to hide them id assume

>>804994
huh...

>>804996 I'm not sure, I'm like, an FtM anyway, I'm not very knowledgeable in that kinda stuff! Just experiment a bit.

also anyone else noticed posts always drop to the bottom of the thread now for some reason

>>804994
for me that's kinda just doing other stuff
idk

is opworm messing with site settings again?

>>804997
wait i was getting nipple advice from a boy

>>805001 I used to have a girlfriend. ^_^

>>805002
did she tell you about how nipples worked

>>805003 She liked when I played around with them, so yeah, she gave me some directions.

>>805004
ahhh, alright :)

thank you for the assistance :)

>>805006 No problem !

>>805007
fyi you can click the post number to quote

welcome to the site, anon

which anon is operator worm

i haven't seen operator worm in like, 2 months or maybe one month and i want to become better friends with him but he's elusive like a hermit crab

>>805010
you

my last encounter with opworm was around a week ago

>>805014
was it on bw?

>>805009
Thanks! :-)

I've never seen such a friendly board.

yeah it's a nice place

>>805017
:)

and we have fun commands

>>805017
#sharkspin

>>805020
anon are you operator worm

>>805021
no

>>805015
yuh

>>805022
are you a global staff

>>805024
no

i'm anon

>>805025
alright

FUN COMMANDS

One thing though! A bit offtopic here, but still. Who took away the reply window.. I had to use a VPN to get it back up.

>>805029
on this site? that shouldn't happen. if you see that happen try refreshing i guess

>>805030
Yeah. And refreshing didn't help, I tried a few times.

>>805032
Alright! A note is that I am in Russia, so maybe it's just my internet screwing with me.

>>805028
how...

>>805032
hello opworm!!

how are you?

operator worm can we hang out sometime

>>805038
#give

/`gaming

>>805046
missing a space

gaming

i love this

>>805046
#replace / with wawa

>>805045
tyy

>>805051
#replace w with #smartai

operator worm even if you don't want to be friends with me i still want you to know that you're a good person :)

>>805056
i know dw i was just obfuscating it for fun :)

but thank u opworm

>>805058
#give

you can always go full anon so we dont know it u

>>805061
if i stop being a user (not saying i will) would u friendship

>>805064
uhhh, i kind of disagree but okay

>>805066
thank you :)

ummmm
if i get the millionth get can we hang out for two hours